Mrs. Obvious is a mother, wife, and mentor. She has firsthand life experience with her son's mental health issues, searching for answers.
Niacin Works for ODD, ADHD, and Bipolar Disorder
I don't want to keep you in suspense for this long article, so I will tell you what I have discovered right away. I have stopped all symptoms of ODD and bipolar disorder in my 7-year-old son by using non-flushing niacin (vitamin B3). I now have a loving, bright-eyed little boy, who didn't exist before this regimen. He has been 95% symptom-free for 11 months now prior to writing this article. Below, I've included a reference table to see what dosage he was receiving at 50 pounds.
My Son's Supplement Regimen
Niacin (Vitamin B3)
This article should not be misinterpreted as medical advice and is not meant as such. I am not a doctor, and only wish to relate my personal experiences with my son and our use of vitamins to offer hope to others. Always consult with your physician for the best method of treatment.
Our Story: My Son Was Born a Healthy Baby
Wyatt was born normal: no drugs, no alcohol, no “problems” during the pregnancy. He was born two weeks late, and he was a beautiful 9 pounds and 1 1/2 ounce baby boy. I was the lucky mother of a perfectly healthy baby, or so I thought. The funny thing about autism and mental illness is that it doesn’t show up at birth. It is the silent stealer of a mother’s joy—the hopes and dreams killer. It shows up just when you think you’ve got a handle on this parenthood stuff and forever changes the course of your life. You thought life as you knew it ended when you became a parent, but it’s when this silent enemy comes into your life that everything changes.
Wyatt’s name means “brave warrior." For me, it was a good choice because of my religious background. (I thought it would mean a brave warrior for the Lord.) I don’t regret the name, and I believe that it has and still will be significant in Wyatt’s life. From day four of Wyatt’s life, he had a special look in his eyes. People would say, “Wow, look how alert he is." That was the key word everyone used, “alert." Wyatt’s eyes looked like an old man trapped in an infant’s body. His eyes were piercing, knowing, and just waiting to break free from the shackles of his miniature body.
He was also what I called an “angel baby." He hardly ever cried. He developed an extreme dislike for being held while sucking a bottle. He would literally fuss and cry until you put him down on the couch and propped up his bottle to eat. He never spit-up when you burped him. Never.
At 8 weeks old, he would sleep 8 or more hours a night. When he woke up he wouldn’t cry; he would play with his toes and wave his arms around to entertain himself. He would do it for an hour or more before he would look for food or comfort. He was a delightful little guy who didn’t demand attention and liked to crawl around on the floor. If you put him in a swing, he would get upset because you had restricted his movement. So, we taught him to crawl at five months of age. This happened before he could sit up without falling over. He was independent and on the move from the very get-go of his life.
My Child Began to Exhibit Problems at 18 Months
The problems started at 18 months when Wyatt no longer needed naps. No matter how hard I tried, or how late I kept him up, Wyatt would not and could not go to sleep. He was busy all the time. He was also in trouble all the time. Baby proofing is a joke to a toddler who can climb doorways, couches, tables, and anything else in his way. Locks are also not a problem. Wyatt is smart enough to figure them out.
In fact, Wyatt’s sleeping problems got so bad that by the time he was 2 1/2, he couldn't fall asleep at night. If I fell asleep before him, he would try to leave the house and unlock any lock in his way (presumably because he was bored and looking for something to do).
Sleep became a battle of wills. I wouldn’t even try to put him down until after 9 pm; he would stay awake for hours. Nightlights, C.D.s of soothing music, humidifiers, fans, aromatherapy . . . nothing worked. Benadryl was always the doctor’s first and only medicinal suggestion and, of course, it didn’t work. One doctor told me to hold him down to the bed gently but firmly until he gave up and went to sleep. Yeah right. That was just an experiment in torture for the both of us and he would last for hours, struggling with me until I was exhausted and he was angry.
I finally was so exhausted after weeks and months of no sleep that I would close us in the bedroom together and lay on the floor in front of the door at 11 pm and try to go to sleep with Wyatt playing (and sometimes trying to shove me out of the way). The daycare people couldn’t get him to sleep 90% of the time either. He got more and more hyper, more agitated, more aggressive, more defiant, and more dare-devilish almost every day.
Wyatt is also very literal. I used to sing "The Itsy Bitsy Spider" to him every morning on the way to daycare. I had to stop the day he sliced his hand wide open looking for the spider up a rain downspout at the daycare lady’s house. Wyatt would also do things like hide under tables and furniture if he got overwhelmed, or just to avoid being disciplined. He has a scar on his head from diving under a table and cutting his scalp open on the metal screws holding it together. The funny thing is, he didn't seem to mind the pain.
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The Spiral Into Despair
Wyatt became extremely moody. He was happy as a clam and laughing one minute, and a raging lunatic the next. This cycle would repeat itself umpteen times in a day. He was never stable, and you never knew what he was going to act like next. It just got worse and worse. I started wondering if maybe he had multiple personalities. There were times during these unholy rages that he was stoked by surges of adrenaline, and if you looked in his eyes, he wasn’t there. His eyes would be hollow, dead, and scary. I swear there were times he seemed possessed with the strength of three men.
He fought with anyone and everyone on instinct; it was like watching a wild animal react. There was no thinking involved, just action. He started having fits of rage, destroying things on purpose, and trashing whole rooms at a time. I started having to physically restrain him during these rages. Wyatt was a small kid, but at only 50 pounds, he could fight like a wildcat; it would go on for an hour or more at a time. Sometimes, if I was lucky, he would exhaust himself (not to mention me). If not, we would often go for a second round. After catching his breath, he would start more destructive, dangerous behavior, and I would have to restrain him all over again to prevent him from hurting himself, hurting me, or destroying the house. This little routine would happen 3 to 4 nights a week.
I was a prisoner of this child in my own home. I could not take him anywhere or do anything else but keep both eyes on him. Not doing so would have dire consequences. His little brother was the constant recipient of violent abuse from Wyatt, who would take out all his anger and frustration on Marshall on a whim.
The Challenges of Being a Working Mother
I was a working single mother when Wyatt’s problems were all coming to a head. I would try to get home from work early a few days a week just so I could take a nap and my head would stop swimming from the lack of sleep. I would have to choose every day between a nap or getting groceries and diapers that we needed because there was no way I could handle him at the store by myself. I have been utterly embarrassed and shamed too many times to risk a trip to any store. Not to mention, Wyatt was a flight risk. What are you supposed to do when you take a violent 3-year-old and an 18-month-old baby to the store by yourself and the 3-year-old jumps out of the basket and takes off? Tell me, please.
I never did figure it out, I just outlived that stage. Usually, I would find him across the store in the toy section completely oblivious to my angst. Although just a baby, Marshall learned to follow me around no matter what was going on with no questions asked. I did try a child leash on Wyatt a few times at events like a street peddler fair when we went out with some family members. The mixed looks of shock and horror from other people were humiliating. People who had no clue about our situation or the trauma that Wyatt put me through in public situations were judging me over the use of a child leash, which kept my child safe and me sane.
I started praying that one of those insensitive, judgmental people would actually confront me so I could get in an altercation. I wanted to go to jail! It would be a fabulous vacation for me. I could sit in a little cell where I was responsible for no one, and sleep to my heart's content. I started fantasizing about being an alcoholic or drug addict so that I could escape this misery, and secondly, I hoped that they would take my kids away. Now, you might be thinking, "What the hell is she saying?" There are no words to describe the depths of depression and desperation that I was feeling. Think about it. I was all alone with a wild, violent child that I had no way of controlling. He was abusing my 18-month-old baby, and we trapped home alone. I could go to work for a few hours a day, but never get any rest or sleep because I was chasing him around in and out of the house and trying to protect the baby.
I only had a bachelor brother living in the same town as us. He was understanding, but unknowledgeable and inexperienced. He tried to help me but he didn’t know how. No one else believed me about how crazy Wyatt really was. I was made to feel that maybe if I was just a better parent . . . or I just needed to change my parenting style . . . or maybe I should just take some classes. I felt hopeless, helpless, and worthless. It wasn't my parenting skills—this was something I had never witnessed or heard any other mom talk about. This wasn’t postpartum depression either.
Getting Professional Help
I finally was able to get the boys onto the state health plan and started taking Wyatt to see the pediatrician to tell the doctor about some of the extreme behaviors we were experiencing: backflips off of the couch, bolting away from me into the street, not sleeping, doing stunts on his bicycle. Of course, he suggested Benedryl, which I already knew wouldn’t work. This was a waste of my time. We didn’t need suggestions, we needed answers.
I obtained authorization from the insurance company to take Wyatt for an assessment by a real psychologist. We filled out forms and questionnaires and gave questionnaires to my mother and Wyatt’s daycare provider to get a consensus of Wyatt’s behavior. Over the course of three separate appointments, we finally had an answer. Three answers actually. Wyatt was diagnosed ADHD, bipolar disorder, and Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
I felt instant relief. Now I knew what to do, how to proceed, how to explain this to others, and most importantly, how to get help. Our next stop was a psychiatrist. At our first appointment, I gave him our diagnosis and begged him to help us make a normal little boy out of Wyatt. He gave us Depakote and Clonidine.
With the Clonidine, I got my mind back. Wyatt could sleep for at least four hours on Clonidine, and if I was lucky, most nights he would stay asleep until about 7 in the morning. The Depakote helped a little at first, but we had to increase it a lot until it worked really well. Suddenly, I could actually breathe again. I had been holding my breath for over two years with no relief. No medical or social help. No hope. In just one appointment a psychiatrist saved my sanity and my family. This was the beginning of our 3 1/2 years of trying all manner of psych. drugs, looking for the “fix."
Trial and Error With Medications and Serious Side Effects
All in all, I have tried 18 different drugs on Wyatt. I learned that there are first and second tier medications to use on his bipolar disorder and psychotic symptoms. Most of the time, we tried one first tier and one second tier together, or two second tier drugs together. Wyatt seems to be what I call “drug resistant." He never responded well to just one medication and/or had to be at the upper limits of each medication in order for us to see positive results. Every two weeks to a month, it was back to the psychiatrist to up his medication or change it. There are pros and cons to each one and side effects that you choose to live with. None of the medications seemed to be able to control the extreme obsessiveness. None of the medications could stop him from falling into his rages—they just gave us more time in between episodes.
The Depakote caused Wyatt to shake. His hands would tremor like he had Parkinson’s. It made writing difficult and frustrating for him. Risperdal was a good medication, but then we went to Invega, a newer form of Risperdal, and that combined with the Depakote caused dystonia, which sent us directly to the hospital.
We have been to the hospital twice for dystonia, and once for a drug overdose. Dystonia is not fun. It is the slow spasming and paralysis of major muscle groups throughout the body and looks very freakish. The first time it happened in Wyatt, it paralyzed his face and throat muscles. He started drooling and couldn’t eat or swallow anything, even water. His neck muscles started contracting, pulling his head backwards against his own will. I knew that medication allergies can close your throat in a type of anaphylactic shock, and I was afraid that was what was happening.
I called his dad, and together we ran him to the hospital all freaked out and told the staff that his throat was closing. They got us in right away, and I ran down the list of all the meds he was taking. Thank God a very knowledgeable doctor was on call that afternoon. He figured out what was happening and told us that it was a medication reaction called dystonia and that his throat wasn’t really closing. That was immediately comforting, but the symptoms were still progressing and more and more of his body was contracting and stiffening every minute.
I was freaked out inside, but I knew that Wyatt needed me to be his strength and comfort and I wasn’t going to let him down. I told Wyatt over and over just to stay calm, and that the doctors were just getting the right medicine ready to fix this little problem. They had already put a catheter in him about an hour before while he was still able to put up a fight. Now, he was all but stiff as a board with muscles contorting his limbs oddly, and he started to arch his back and go into a seizure. Just then, the doctor ran up and injected intravenous Benadryl into his arm. Within 10 seconds it stopped. About one minute later, his body relaxed and he looked normal. I couldn’t believe it. It was the most amazing transformation I’ve ever seen.
Synthetic Drugs Are Scary
Needless to say, drugs are scary. They are necessary in a lot of cases, but very scary. I now consider them a stop-gap until you can find a vitamin or homeopathic alternative that works for your situation. Not all drugs will work the same for all people, and I believe that you also have to experiment with vitamins until you find the right combo for you. Vitamins are often much safer, too; water-soluble vitamins are not toxic at any dose. There are a few oil-based vitamins that can cause problems if you are using too much, so do your research and find out which is which.
Wyatt Was a Safety Risk to Himself and Others
As time went on, and Wyatt would grow a little here and there, the meds would have to change with him. The changes were adding up to years of hell. Finally, things got out of control about a year ago, and I had to 5150 him. 5150 is a police code which means to commit him against his will because his behaviour is harmful to himself and/or others. He spent three weeks in a children's psychiatric hospital, and I was only able to visit him on weekends because it was three hours away from our home.
Committing a minor is actually a long, drawn-out process of medical evaluations and securing a "bed" at an appropriate facility all while going through the right paperwork and hospital protocol. For me, as a parent, it meant that while he was in this 5150 state, I was responsible for keeping him as calm as possible in a little room in the ER of the hospital. They apparently didn't think that such a small child really needed the usual security guard they provide for adult cases. After five hours of wrestling him, soothing him, and convincing him we really needed to stay at the hospital, they finally got his escort and vehicle ready to take him on the ride to the psych hospital.
The vehicle looks like an unmarked police car, with locking doors and a gate to guard the driver from the passenger. It was the worst day of my life. My child whom I loved dearly, but who had tortured me for so long, was sent away like an animal in a cage. My heart felt like it had been ground apart with a potato masher. I was crying and numb, emotionally and physically drained. I had literally fought a battle that night. I went home and laid in bed crying and sobbing until I couldn't breathe, hoping the numbness would settle over my soul.
While in the mental hospital, Wyatt was also finally diagnosed with PDD-NOS, a high-functioning form of autism. That answered even more questions for me. When Wyatt did come home, things were better for awhile but deteriorated quickly. It was back to the hospital ten weeks later when I caught him sneaking up behind his brother with a knife and making a grab for his head to slit his throat.
Wyatt had been hallucinating, both visually and auditorily. He was still raging and now also showing homicidal tendencies. Committing him the second time was not any easier than the first. This time, I told them I wanted him med-washed, which means to wean him off all meds except what I wanted to keep. We kept the Clonidine for sleeping, and his ADHD med, Methylphenidate, which is just generic Ritalin. To this day, these are still the only "drugs" he takes.
Niacin May Help People With Mental Health Disorders
While Wyatt was away this time, a friend who is into homeopathy turned me on to the writings of Abram Hoffer, M.D.. I learned about Hoffer's clinical trials which showed evidence that niacin, when used on schizophrenics, "cured" their psychotic symptoms ("cured" as long as they remained on the niacin). I was amazed that it could be so simple. I had never heard this from our doctors. I decided to try using niacin on Wyatt. From the research, I read it couldn't hurt him, and I was desperate to find answers. Wyatt came home on Halloween and I started him on niacin a week later. The rest is history.
How Niacin Relieved My Son's Mental Health Issues
I started with 500 mg of a non-flushing form of niacin (niacinamide). I made a point of not asking him how he felt because I didn't want to get a false response. I just wanted to see how he would act; that was the big test anyway. I started him on 1,000 mg for the first day and increased it by 500 mg every 24 hours over the next few days until we were at 2,500 mg. That first day of taking 2,500 mg, Wyatt pulled me aside and whispered in my ear, "Mommy, I'm not seeing things anymore!" (Remember, Wyatt had been hallucinating for a few months.) I was overjoyed! I almost dropped on the floor right there and cried. I held it together though, and whispered back to him, "I'm so glad honey, you can tell Mommy if anything else happens, okay?" He ran off, happy as a lark.
I decided to stay at the 2,500 mg level for a week or two to see if the good results would hold out. Two days after this first victory, Wyatt pulled me aside again and whispered, "Mommy, I'm not hearing things anymore!" I could hardly believe it. Those were some of the sweetest words I had ever heard. I knew that from then on, my Wyatt, my baby whom I'd lost to these illnesses, was back.
Wyatt has only had one small rage in the last 11 months of using niacin. It was about 1/4 of what he used to do. Wyatt smiles now, all the time. He is no longer dangerous to himself or others. Wyatt can think clearly and shows an amazing amount of self-control and the ability to problem-solve. He is kind to his brother now (most of the time!). He is loving, too. It's just amazing. I have an eight-year-old little boy who cuddles with Mommy, and holds my hand in stores. He kisses and hugs me, and tells me he loves me. All the years that were lost are being replaced by this sweet boy. Niacin saved my son and returned him to me—I would shout it from the mountains. Thank you, God! Thank you for your mercy which allowed me to discover the "cure" for my son. Thank you!
After my research, I have chosen to add a few more vitamins to Wyatt's regimen which, I believe, support the actions of the niacin and support brain health. Wyatt also takes 2,000 mg of vitamin C a day and 2,100 mg of omega-3 daily. I personally have also started taking multiple supplements for myself and feel better than I ever have. My other son takes vitamin C and omega-3, too.
There Is Hope for ODD, ADHD, and Bipolar Disorder
It's the least I can do, to write this out for others, to tell you there is hope. You must search for it. You should try vitamins and homeopathic remedies. Don't give up. Don't let them tell you that you are a bad parent. Don't let them tell you there's nothing that will help you. Don't let the drug companies keep you tied to their mediocre medications. There is hope! There is hope! There is hope! This November 2009, my son will be free from the symptoms of ODD and bipolar disorder for a year. I am praying that I will find a vitamin cure for ADHD. Until then folks, you can be sure I will keep looking. Good luck and God bless all those who are searching.
My Son's Current Supplement Regimen
Niacin (Vitamin B3)
Update: November 7th, 2010
This week is my son's two-year anniversary of using megadoses of niacin and being free of bipolar and ODD symptoms (see above). He also takes Methylphenidate (generic Ritalin) and Clonidine for sleep. Wyatt is still sweet, happy, and healthy, and has not required antipsychotics for psychotic or violent behavior since we discovered niacin. We are living our lives instead of surviving. Thanks for all of your wonderful comments and I wish all of you good health and God bless.
- How To Cope With Your Child's ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder)
This is for the parents who live with this disability, day in, and day out. If they are lucky, maybe they catch a break on the weekend, (depending on whether you are a single parent) if not, then unless a...
This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional.
© 2009 Willow Mattox
bobbie on May 08, 2020:
hello. i have a question, did you give the no flush niacin( niacinamide ) in one gift daily, or did you split the doses, please explain
Mk on February 27, 2020:
Wondering if you ever had his methylation status checked? He sounds like a severe case of overmethylation ( low histamine) Histapenia with pyrolle disorder. This sounds so much like my son . He was just diagnosed by Dr Albert Mensah with this. Niacin is one of the supplements he’s been ordered to start taking
melanie dent on February 21, 2020:
niacin is really good for sleep i use to have sleeping problems and did have schizophrenia but niacin made me sleep again and i kno longer have scizophrenia praise god
Christine conklin on February 09, 2020:
I am so glad you gave found answers for wyatt we have ADHD in our family too several of my grandsons have been diagnosed we will start searching for natural treatments you have given me hope thank you so much for your story
ROSINA LOCK on February 03, 2020:
So very pleased to see that you got your beautiful son Wyatt well again. And sincerely hope he continues to stay well. And thank you for your lovely article, it was very moving.
Alaina on February 03, 2020:
I just came across your article. Our son we adopted from foster care has not officially been diagnosed as ODD yet but has very similar symptoms. We also found out he has a family history of bipolar disorder. We have not seen signs of that yet but it makes me even more concerned about getting him some help now. He is currently six so I am really hoping this works. My main question is when your son was younger how did you get him this amount of vitamins. I can usually sneak some into his morning yogurt and maybe an afternoon smoothie but I think with the amounts I am going to have to work up to here it is going to be hard to hide the taste/texture. Any suggestions?
Nicole K on October 06, 2019:
My husband exhibits ADHD symptoms. He was diagnosed as a child, but has not been evaluated since then. What dosage of niacin should an adult take?
Memr on March 17, 2019:
As little as 80 mg daily has caused liver damage in adults.
Cindy T on March 02, 2019:
They need to take Glycine too. When I was a child, in the early 1960s, my mother hadn't taken me for my vaccines, so to be able to go to school, I got all of my shots on one day. It very much affected me for a lifetime. Before that, I remember feeling normal. I have done some research on it and this is what I have found. In the 1960s, glyphosate (active ingredient in a popular weed killer) was patented as an antibiotic. Knowing that, it would not be a shock that they would use it in vaccines. Not long back, Mom's across America sent off 5 vaccines to be tested for glyphosate, all 5 had it. In 2010 the maker of said weed killer, filed another patent using glyphosate to treat Malaria and other infectious diseases. Many have wondered, if glyphosate could be a cause of Autism, since it's rise in popularity, also matched a rise in Autism. Well, as this certain weed killer/antibiotic became more and more popular, autism certainly did increase from one in 10,000 to the rates we have today, some estimate that in 20 years, it could be one in 3. Is it possible that a popular weed killer could be connected? What is it made of? That might be a clue. It is made of glycine, but when they are finished with it, it is a synthetic product called glyphosate, which mimics glycine. We could look at what glycine does in the body, that might tell us something, well it is the second most important amino acid in the body. So, if it was replaced with a counterfeit glycine, there would be serious effects, no doubt. Would any of those effects be involved in autism? Since glyphosate fits the same receptor site as glycine, it would actually block real glycine. What does glycine do? First, glycine is needed for metabolism, and for making ATP energy in the gut and for making serotonin, which makes us happy and calm. Glycine is needed for gut motility. This might explain why autistic kids are falsely called lazy, and why they are constipated, and why they are depressed a lot. Autistic kids are lot lazy, they are exhausted, and low on ATP energy. Also, glycine is needed to break down proteins, and to make protein. If the mimic of glycine cannot break down glutamate (wheat protein) and casein (milk protein), then there will be problems there. And yes, autistic kids do have too much glutamate in their brains. Glycine normally goes into the brain with glutamate, (you actually need both,) and glycine inhibits and calms down the overly stimulated brain that comes from too much glutamate. But, if the fake glycine called glyphosate blocks real glycine, we are going to see kids with way too much glutamate, is that happening in real life? Autopsies of autistic kids show that they have as much as 4 times or more glutamate in their brains than normal kids. This excess of unfettered glutamate would also explain all the emotional melt downs and rages some autistic kids experience, not to mention panic attacks and other emotional events. They appear to be low on serotonin and high on glutamate. This is one reason why Niacin is really important because it also breaks down glutamate. But, it is no replacement for proper glycine. I started taking glycine supplements, I also take TMG (Tri-methelated Glycine) supplements, glycine is sweet, like sugar, so it would be easy to mix in drinks or food for autistic kids. I know that for me, after 2 weeks of using it, I am feeling so much better, I can't even describe the difference. I am starting to feel normal again, happy, giddy. Autistic kids are super intelligent, they just lack language to express it. Could that be caused by glyphosate replacing glycine? We know that Nitric Oxide is needed for the development and expression of language in the brain, but it has to bind to a protein to work, a protein that needs glycine to be made. Nitric Oxide instead is binding to an altered protein made using glyphosate, fake glycine will not substitute when it comes to language and expression of language. Could this be why come severely autistic kids cannot speak? The protein needed for language skills has been altered by fake glycine? These kids are actually smart, even brilliant, but they are being treated like they are dumb all because they are locked in the prison of their heads, locked out of being able to communicate or use language. Do not treat them like they are unintelligent. Instead, let them know that you know they are in there, that you know they are bright and intelligent, and that you are here to help them. They are the victims of a horrible experiment, because glyphosate had antibiotic properties, and some tests have shown it used in some vaccines, but glycine would have worked just as well. It fights infection too. These kids have had their normal happy existence taken from them, they have been robbed. Most won't drive, marry, have kids, or even being able to speak to their friends and family like others, all possibly because we want a convenient weed killer which uses a mimic of glycine to do the job. Don't stop taking Niacin, it will fight glutamate, but, glycine could also be taken. They don't put it in food and drinks because your body can make some glycine. Even so, add it, because if it is being replaced by glyphosate, it can cause disastrous problems. Speaking from experience, taking glycine for the last 2 weeks has been fantastic for me. I have felt more normal and happy and energetic than I have in years. It is cheap, I take the pills but it tastes sweet and could easily be added to food and drink. This product called glyphosate kills gut microbes, and since our gut is called our second brain, these kids also need sunshine and exposure to nature, maybe they can pick up some good microbes there.
She on February 22, 2019:
Hi! Thank you for sharing the inspiring story of your son & your struggles.
Just would like to share that my 8 year old son has tics and he is on diet (gluten,dairy free, no food coloring and go organic as possible) It works amazingly esp. in motor tics because it disappered after 2 months. He takes magnesium daily & multivitamins. I let him tried niacin just a few days ago and it works!!! To all parents who shared the same sentiments, let us keep our faith in God. He is the greatest physician and miracle do happens... Thank you to the author of this article. All the insights you’ve shared is truly valuable and a blessing to all of us...
music key on November 01, 2018:
Thank you so very much for this article as it only proves my recent findings. I am noticing a huge change by giving my 7.5 year old daughter 25mg of niacin a day (+12mg of niacin as one of the ingredients In her daily chewing vitamins). The niacin does cause flashing, but it lasts for about 30 minutes and can be avoided if the vitamin is not given around bath/ high activity time. As I said, I am noticing a huge change. She is much more attentive and reasonable. She is no longer constipated (i’ve not been able to manage this issue since she was an infant!) or having tummy aches. She is much more balanced, etc., etc., etc. Lastly, I found out of niacin from a different source by listening to video recordings of Sofia Dorinskaya (MD, psychiatrist, and a human rights activist in the area of mental health). She has a tone of thankful patients with great results. I wish I could share the testimonials but they seem to be available only in Russian... Sending best wishes and prayers to all of you.
Basil on October 30, 2018:
How can your son handle 4000 mg of Niacin? 500 mg gives people a lot of flushing. Do you give him the kind that doesn't flush? Is it as beneficial? I can't yet tolerate more than 500 mg. Soon I will be able to tolerate 1000 mg that can flush.
Susanna Kelley on October 21, 2018:
I just had to have my son admitted to the ER for what seems to be the millianth battle with ODD, PTSD ASD, and ADHD. He has been very aggressive to the point i fear for my life sometimes, especially since i take away phones that he either steals, usually or some unkind person gives him. Thank you for the tip about Niacin. I do have my son on homeopathic medication but have not been able to afford it lately. The hospital said they are placing him on medication but if i take him off it they are going to call childrens division. Just what i need. I have been his best advocate and i am a good parent.
11 year old with DMDD on July 23, 2018:
I have been looking for some additional natural help for my 11 year old son currently diagnosed with DMDD. He has had major issues since he was about 4 and as he grows older things seem to be getting worse. He is a middle child; his two siblings do not have mental health issues and do not understand why he acts the way he does. His behavior makes happy family functions almost impossible. School has been a nightmare, despite going to a special education school with staff that should be better equipped to handle a child like him.
I will definitely try Niacin and a couple other things based on your article and these other posts. The other thing I have been searching all over for is a good chat room of some kind for parents dealing with kiddos with major mental health issues. I can never seem to find anything aside from "comments" to posts and articles like this. :(
If anyone has any resources to suggest that would be great! Thanks
Grateful Mama on July 17, 2018:
Thank you for writing this. I was feeling hope.less tonight and needed a boost. Mamas like us really need a support group - to know that we are not alone. My 7yo son sounds just like yours and we have started down the road of pharmacological experiment but my gut just tells me it's not the answer. I have two other children who I do not want to know this abuse as normal. Your story and how you have used your experience to help others is beautiful. Thank you.
Mama in the trenches and scared for my life.
MaryC on June 25, 2018:
EllenM - We found ours (Niacinamide) at Vitamin Shoppe - they have everything cheaper than Whole Foods and other places.
Danna on June 17, 2018:
I started my daughter on Niacin today even before reading this article. We have gone through many medications for her mood disorder. She has been kicked out of so many schools because of her anger and outburst. I am hoping that this will help. I just worry with a very high dose it will build up in her system, so I plan on keeping her at 500 awhile (also not telling her about expected changes) to see if there are any improvements.
EllenM on June 14, 2018:
Can you share what brand of Niacin you used? I can't seem to find any that aren't in a multivitamin.
MaryC on June 13, 2018:
I've given my 12-year ADHD/ODD/ASD son fish oils and multi-vitamins over the years (on top of his stimulant) at the recommendatn of his peds doc, but with minimal results. I never heard of this before until I stumbled upon your site and http://www.doctoryourself.com/InterviewNiacin01.pd... WOW!
Last night I went and got niacinamide (non-flushing) and opened the 500mg capsule to sprinkle it into his multi-vitamin (Kids Calm Splash since he has braces, and can't swallow big pills or chew gummies) after dinner. He did not notice a taste difference and I didn't notice a difference in him yet, but he slept well and awoke to be a pleasant young man this morning (YAY!).
Does anyone split them across the day, or just give it once a day, and when? I am thinking of splitting, but then will that be too much?
Keep sending out prayers, and remember... U R NOT ALONE!!!
Charlie on June 11, 2018:
I have been giving my daughter 250 mg in her yogurt for a year and have up it to 500 mg(she is 5-6 yr old). How do you give more to yr young kids? Help
Anonimo. on May 25, 2018:
Good morning, I have a 15 year old son with adhd.Mio son follows a gluten-free anti-inflammatory diet, casein, corn and sugars.The supplements he is using are: Vit C, Vit B group, zinc, magnesium, niacinamide 1 gr and medium, omega3, linseed oil, phosphotidylcholine and LCarnitine, tryptophan, myinositol, coconut oil, and chlorella. Spirulina is also recommended as it contains amino acids. Many probiotics, kefir for the intestinal part, should also be added. theanine is also used to help the anxiety. After reading how a father recovered his son in three years from 'ADHD I began to add some supplements to those that my son already took.Quesro father has healed his son from bipolar disorder from ADHD, but he also healed himself from a bipolar who had been for more than twenty years. His father's name is Allen Darmann. Knowing how he healed his son was really exciting, even if I I already knew orthomolecular medicine and the wonderful Habram Hoffer.
Jane on May 18, 2018:
How did you get your 7 year old to swallow vitamin tablets?
SarahPark on May 15, 2018:
Your story is truly inspiring. Thank you. We have started our 7 year old son on a micronutrient program which contains for similar symptoms your son was experiencing which contains high levels of niacin and vitamin C and in the 2 months since starting we see a huge improvement. I notice you added Ritalin, what dose did you add? I am concerned Ritalin will cause mania / irritability. We tried Ritalin previously without success but I’m willing to try again while on the high dose vitamins as he still has some trouble with impulsivity and focus. His aggression / irritability / anxiety / sleep issues are now thankfully under control.
Louise on April 13, 2018:
Wonderful to hear your son is doing well. I have a 38 year old son with aspergers and have had him on Niacin and Fish oil and a few other things and it has helped tremendously the last several years but last week we found out he hasn't been taking them regularly so he's had a serious downturn and I've had to intervene and go to his place and make sure he's into a routine a taking them at optimum dosages to halt his decline. He's improved very much already the last couple of days. I haven't had him taking the Vitamin C. Do you find this helps balance teh brain more thorougly?
Sylvia on April 11, 2018:
Very inspiring story. This gives hope to moms like me who are in quest for a better alternatives to psych drugs. My daughter, now 24 y.o., was diagnosed with bipolar in 2012. She has been on so many drugs that have no lasting effect to give her stability and be happy once more. Late last year I started her with a multivitamins (quite pricey) and was able to lower her meds, looking at complete d/c. Her symptoms have reduced a lot but not quite where I want it to be. I am excited to have found you and also read recently about Vit. C megadose ( as you are also doing), to add this to my daughter's protocol. I believe with a lot of prayers we will overcome as well. Many thanks and blessings to you and Wyatt.
carmenalene on March 12, 2018:
Wow!!! Reading your experience was like taking a trip down memory lane! My son is 14 years old. We adopted this precious boy from Guatemala. We got his referral at birth but soon after his adoption stalled and he spent the first 7months of his life in an orphanage. It's a very long a dramatic stranger than life story but after moving down to Guatemala with my 4 year old daughter to muscle his adoption through, we finally brought him home at 15 months. He was such a docile, gentle easy baby....then at 18 months, the firehose turned on. He began to push back at push back at everything. I would say yes, he would say no. I would say up, he would say down. As he grew he became more and more disruptive. He has always struggled in a group setting, has struggled to make friends, struggled with his grades. When he 7 years old we moved to the Middle East for my husbands job. We had little to no support available for him and his needs. As adolescents liked in, he started to isolate himself more and more. We are now back in the states and am rocketing forward with help and support for my son as well as myself. Thankyou so much for sharing your story. At this moment, I am headed off to the health food store.
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on February 26, 2018:
I have advised from the very beginning that you run this by your doctor and let him/her know. Yes, I told our doctors what I was doing, and kept them updated as I increased the amount. My doctor did worry that it would be hard on his liver. I personally didn't think so, but I am not a doctor! Later on it did seem to be having an effect and we had to stop using niacin for awhile. Fortunately we got lucky and by that time he had grown out of most of his toughest issues and had more self control. Nowadays my son uses niacin at his own discretion when he feels that it may help him tame some of his more bothersome symptoms and needs a bit of help.
kianny8939 on February 13, 2018:
I immediately started my son (7 yo) on these three supplements after reading this post. It's been a couple weeks - and he is SO much better. HOWEVER - someone questioned if I had run this by a doctor? I haven't. Was your doctor aware of the 2500, later 4000 mg of Niacin? Any concerns? Thanks so much.
Liz on January 15, 2018:
I have used large doses of Niacin for my son to treat his Schizophrenia. As he is a young adult - I don't administer his medication myself but can definitely tell when he has not been taking his Niacin! It has been a lifesaver!
MKR on December 15, 2017:
I wanted to give you an update and the readers of this blog after trying the non Flush Niacin! It absolutely DID work for my son and the ODD!! I tried 2000 mg the first week and may add another 500 this week. He has severe ADHD and I am going to add in high doses of omega 3’s this week as well as a natural supplement for attention and hyperactivity. The Niacin didn’t seem to help him much in that area. But overall, he seems happier and is HUGELY LESS DEFIANT. I have spread your story and have told others about this thanks to you sharing. Thank you again, and Merry Christmas!
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on December 07, 2017:
I am so glad you found our story helpful! I don't get to respond to my comments too often, so I just wanted to reach out and say Merry Christmas and thank you for letting me know that you found some hope for you and your son. God Bless you too!
MKR on December 06, 2017:
I feel like God sent me straight to your blog as I have been struggling with ODD with my beautiful 12 year old boy. Tears streamed down my face as I read you describing his journey as a baby to toddler to child because that was exactly my life and experience . Even the comments from people saying he was so “ alert” . I’m so happy to hear about your son doing so well and I am going out today and getting Niacin as well as some other supplements I have read about. I am DONE putting chemicals in my child’s body that are causing even worse side effects. GOD BLESS YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY WITH OTHERS!!!!!
Sarah on October 24, 2017:
WOW! I honestly feel like God put this right in front of me!! Is there any way of contact with you privately??
Tina on September 03, 2017:
Thank you for sharing, I'm passing this to a good friend! I have a child ASD & Adhd
B-12 methyl has b6 & folic acid- sublingual.. my sons meltdowns have stopped, he's way more focused & he talks more- seems more engaged.
Abhi on August 31, 2017:
Many thanks for sharing recovery of your son. Real life clinical experience of a mother is priceless. God bless!!
jut want to share Lecithin & L carnosine may be useful for your son.
PANDASMOMMY on June 05, 2017:
Hi! Thank you for sharing? Hope all is well. Could you please give us all an update.
Gemma on January 18, 2017:
I can relate to this story. My sister Naomi Grace has Autism and has now started taking Nacin. I believe its helping her. Thanks to Gods amazing Mercy and Grace.
Angela on December 08, 2016:
I am reading this with tears rolling down my face. We have 6 boys ages 19, 12, 6,5,4, and 1 and our 19 year old has ADHD and mood issues our 12 year old has Aspers syndrome &ADHD our 6 year old has ADHD and mood disorders he is the one that we are having the hardest time with. I am a stay at home mom and I never get a break my husband helps when he gets home but that only helps me doesn't give me a break. I get up to 5 calls a day from the school, he runs out of class and goes to the office where he feels comfortable. When you talked about your being a man in a babies body, that's what we say about our son. We always say he is a old soul and is so hard headed. Thank go he is not aggressive and he is so loving to everyone especially his little brothers he feeds them and will share everything thing with them. His problem is when he feels like he don't want to dont something he don't understand why he can't he use to just run off and I have 3 younger than him I can't go anywhere without my older sons or my husband because I have to watch him and be ready to catch him. Thank you so much for your story!! You don't understand the hope I have at this moment. I would love to be able to talk to you if you could give me your email or maybe a blog you do. Thanks so much!!!!!
nancy on October 19, 2016:
thank you for your article. We used regular niacin 8 yrs ago and my son hated it so much we stopped. He would turn beat red, and burn up from the flushing. Having tried every ssri and adhd med with no luck, I came across Dr Hoffer's info and then your article. I added flush free niacin and vitamin c two days ago. I am hopeful the niacin will stop the ocd/tourette's like symptoms he seems to get lost in.
Dianna Mendez on August 08, 2016:
You wrote this quite awhile back but I am just today stopping in to read your thoughts on this topic. I hope and pray things have gotten much better for you and your son. You have shared so much wisdom here and I see that many have come away with renewed hope. God bless you.
Just A Mom on October 20, 2015:
Oh my gosh! I am so happy for you. I did the same thing with my 30 yr old schizophrenic son. Was so miserable on drugs and gave him the niacin and vitamin C. Within hours it pulled him out of a catatonic state where he was not eating, walking or talking. The voices subsided and hallucinations were leaving. I was the happiest mom in the world. Then he decided to stop taking it, and we had to hospitalize him. No matter what we do, he finds some reason to stop the treatment. Now he has been in the hospital for three weeks and they are having a hard time bring him back. I asked the doctor to give the niacin and vitamin C, they pretty much laughed at me. I feel like crying all the time. My hands are tied as I watch my beautiful boy detierorate under the anti psychotics.
usodri on October 18, 2015:
Although orthomolecular medicine uses high doses of natural substances such as a mineral, an amino acid, a neurotransmitter, a hormone, a vitamin, etc., in the long run the intake of one only element may end up causing an imbalance of elements of the same group, in this case of the other seven vitamins of the B-complex.
usodri on June 23, 2015:
PYRROLE DISORDER OR PYROLURIA (characterized by a dramatic deficiency in zinc, vitamin b-6, biotin and dha) has frequently been linked to BEHAVIORAL DISORDERS, AUTISM. ASPERGERS, ADHD, ADD, DEPRESSION, BIPOLAR DISORDERS, ASSAULTIVE OR AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOUR AND SCHIZOPHRENIA.
You may google for Kryptopyrrole test if you want to know more about one of the numerous causes of these disorders.
usodri on June 22, 2015:
A GREAT LEAP FORWARD.
Dear mrs-obvious, having such a fortunate encounter with orthomolecular medicine has really offered you a giant advantage over the current conventional approaches to deal with such a challenging disorders.
However, as long as such disorders are approached as a brain only conditions and be addressed by just suppressing the symptoms for the rest of Wyatt's life, without knowing which factors caused such a puzzling conditions and still continue perpetuating them, in first place, any efforts to definitively reverse their deleterious impact may result, in the long run, too lengthy and frustrating ...
Unless you identify, understand, and properly address each and every one of their causative factors.
After exhaustively investigating these kinds of disorders for many years, I have found all four share many of the following linked, associated, induced or consequential, exacerbating and perpetuating factors and their resulting myriad of behavioral disorders.
RAGE, ANGRY, AGGRESSION, VIOLENCE, IRRITABILITY, LACK OF IMPULSE CONTROL, PSYCHOTIC OUTBURSTS, ODD, ETC. LINKED TO THE FOLLOWING DETONATING, INFLUENCING CONSEQUENTIAL, AQUIRED OR INDUCING, LINKED OR ASSOCIATED FACTORS:
PYRROLE DISORDER (DRAMATIC DEFICIENCY IN ZINC, B-6, BIOTIN AND DHA FATTY ACIDS)
SEE Kryptopyrrole Test - aids in detection of Pyrrole disorder (Pyroluria) which characterized by a dramatic deficiency of zinc and vitamin B6. Pylouria frequently occurs in behavior disorders, autism, aspergers, adhd, add, depression, bipolar disorders, assaultive or aggressive behavior, and schizophrenia.
Parasitic infection (viral, bacterial, fungal, molds, protozoan, etc.). Autism and Bipolar disorder have been associated with Borrelia gordorferi, a bacterial spirochette that causes Lyme Disease and resulting constellation of neuropsychiatric, neuroinflammatory, immune and autoimmune symptoms.
BIPOLAR DISORDER IS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH BORNAVIRUS.
Copper in excess has a profound impact on neurotransmitters in the brain and the autonomic nervous system. It inhibits the brains ability to break down dopamine, increases norepinephrine and decreases histamine, which can result in a wide range of psychological symptoms like mind racing or racing thoughts, uncontrollable speech, anxiety disorders, depression, schizophrenia, restlessness, irritability, agitation, hyperactivity, insomnia, trembling, shaking, nervousness, inability to relax, paranoia, mania, dyslexia or other learning disorders, bipolar, Tourette’s, autism, adhd, violence, panic attacks, and more. http://www.holistichelp.net/blog/copper-toxicity-a...
It is believed by some that one of the primary causes of all the violence we see in the world may be related to excess copper, as diets in many parts of the world are high in grains and legumes, but void of meat, which would provide the necessary zinc to keep copper in balance.
Excess copper in drinking water from copper pipes, antibiotics, estrogen in the pill, the IUD, too much milk, etc., is among the most common mineral imbalances negatively impacting the brain, the liver, the thyroid, the adrenals, resulting in a myriad of emotional and behavioral disturbances.
A severe biochemical (neurotransmitter or hormonal) imblances or deficiencies.
A severely leaking gut preventing even the most nutritional foods or highly therapeutic treatments be approppriately absorbed and utilized by the body for vital functions (one of the causes of this condition is the prolonged use of antibiotics and sugar, leading to the increase in the number of candida, a yeast capable of extremely ruining the entire health of the host provoking a long list of neuropsychyatric, neuroendocrine, hepatic, immunologic, etc. symptoms).
The presence of heavy metals, such as mercury in dental amalgams and vaccinations (including the mercury in dental amlgams and vaccinations inherited from mom and dad) as well as lead, tin, nickel, cadmium, and many other heavy metals are unimaginably detrimental to the brain and other body organs.
NO ... WYATT IS NOT CLONIDINE DEFICIENT. SLEEP PROBLEMS MAY ARISE FROM COUNTLESS OF UNDERLYING CAUSES INTERFERING WITH THE PRODUCTION OF MELATONIN, THE SLEEP-INDUCING HORMONE PRODUCED BY THE BRAIN.
Lisa Martinez on April 18, 2015:
Wow! This is my son! My son was born this way though. He is now 5 and had been perscribed so many different drugs. Some help for a small time, but then we are back to square one all over again. I pray all day for him. Yesterday right after praying for a miracle for Brody I stumbled upon your post! Feeling hopeful again. Thank you! I pray this is our miracle too!
Emilia Riera from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on October 12, 2014:
This is an inspirational story. My daughter with autism, has OCD, extreme ADHD, SPD and doesn't sleep at night. She has seen specialist, and struggles constantly . Medications work for awhile, then don't. I am more than willing to investigate this further, as I want her to be a happy and healthy child. Thanks for your story!
alyssa on September 14, 2014:
Omg!! Thank you so much for sharing your story.. I feel the sane way.. I thought it was my parenting skills but I no its not I have 4 kids n my 4 year old is just the way you described your son.. I have too dreamed of going to jail just to get my sanity back.. I'm calling his doctor first think Monday morning .. My children suffer everyday from his abuse. He has no regards for any one or anything I've tryed every time out thing I could find on the web. I've cleared his whole room n just left a bed nothing works... I've though bout calling the state on myself Cuz I've felt like I was going to really hurt him. And as you have said I've talked ho his doctor sense he was 2 and get the same thing he is a normal Lil boy and I no deep down he is not.. Thank you souch. Could you please email me Lainealyssa@yahoo.com
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on September 04, 2014:
Thank you for your kind comments. I am so glad that our story encouraged you so much. You are a good mother; what is happening to your child is not your fault, nor is it caused by you. I firmly believe in biochemical causes behind mental illnesses. Sometimes drugs work, and sometimes it really is vitamin or mineral deficiencies, or my son's case, a dependency (need) for extra amounts of something that other individuals don't usually need. Contrary to popular belief, doctors don't know everything. Anything out of the norm, and they are just as lost as we are. I really hope the niacin worked for you, and all the others who have posted that they were going to try it. Have courage friend, even if it did not work for you, I pray that you will find the strength to keep trying.
@Daramus yes, you can put most pills crushed or powdered into applesauce. For the record, I have never tried putting the niacin powder into a drink (if your kid gets tired of the applesauce). I would buy niacin capsules, as they are easy to break open for this purpose.
Daramus on September 04, 2014:
Hi! Thanks for this awesome page. My son will not swallow pills of any kind. Can I crush niacinamide tablets (NOT slow release) and mix it with applesauce or will doing that mess things up? Is there a powder available? Thanks!
Shmily6 on May 10, 2014:
I first want to start off by saying to
Mrs. Obvious, thank you so very much for having the courage to write this & putting it out to the public. By giving this information to parents who are suffering just like you were, it gives great peace of mind, a feeling of normalcy, and hope that we are not alone! While I was reading your article when I came across the point that you had brought up about how his needs and issues were making you feel "crazy". I know you had said most people would be reading this & think, what is wrong with this mother? Who is wishing to go to jail for a vacation? You have no idea what sharing your truthful thoughts & feelings did for me. Today I prayed that the medication would come in the mail! I had read the first part of your story and done research on this type of treatment last week and then decided to place the order. This past week has been by far the worst week ever and I was just feeling so completely hopeless, like such a horrible parent! I was even thinking of choosing to leave him with his dad and take my other kids so that they're not affected, this week just put me how old new breaking point! with Mother's Day coming my husband kept asking what I wanted, and I just said nothing I don't deserve a Mother's Day present. I don't want to be honored for being a mother, when I feel like I'm failing. I checked the mail today and my order was here!I hopeful that this will work. I feel like there's not anything else I can do, I've tried everything literally everything. Because these things had arrived today, I found myself back on your page reading the second part of your story. Which is what made me feel compelled to write to you and just say. "Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your honest feelings"! I hope that this will be something that would truly work for my son, but no matter what happens, you gave me the best Mother's Day gift! Which is the ability to keep going and not give up. Tomorrow is Mother's Day and we will start the medicine then. I will keep you posted, thank you.
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on March 29, 2014:
Catherine, if your son was complaining of stomach problems after trying niacin I don't know if I would go ahead with the treatment. I would ask your doctor about niacin and stomach problems and doublecheck if you got the flush- free or not. There is a slow release niacin, don't know if that would make a difference, because I don't think it is flush free. I would do some specific research on niacin and stomach upset. Good luck!
Jodie on March 26, 2014:
I have an 8 year old son that has ADHD and he has defiant issues and melt downs. The school would sometimes call me 3 times a day and finally I had him put on Dexedrine after trying Concerta first which made his behavior worse. Dexedrine made his behavior better but by the time he gets home from school he is back to his old self. He can't seem to retain what he learns, he can't read nor does he care to read. I am so worried about him. He is a good kid but he is struggling in school and is behind. My dad is bipolar and I think I could have copper toxicity and passed it down to him from all the research I have done looking for answers. I read your story and cried because I can relate to the worry and guilty feelings. I have felt like I passed my son bad genes and he has to suffer because I am his mother. I am going to try the niacin and vitamin c and see what happens. I give him his chewable vitamins every day but it is not helping his focus and memory. I can just imagine how you must of felt when you saw a change in your son for the good. I would get down on my knees and worship God and cry in joy all day to see something working for my son. Praise God for your miracle! Your story gives me hope.
Catherine on March 16, 2014:
I found the heal yourself information and did some google searches about how effective the niacin possibly is. My 7-year-old son has severe adhd and is on a low dose time release Ritalin with minimal improvement. I bought some flush free niacin and vitamin c. After I gave him 500mg of the niacin (secretly in some yogurt) he complained of severe stomach pain for several hours. Did you deal with any nausea of stomach pain with your niacin dosage? Should I keep with the 500mg or lower it?
Jen on February 16, 2014:
I'm 27 and I have been mentally ill since I was vaccinated later in life, at 14. I almost died after having amalgams placed. I was so sick. I had them removed and used Andy Cutler's mercury protocol and regained most of my function, but haven't been able to experience "happy" in a long time. I'm now trying megadoses of niacin and it's really calming me down and eliminating the pain in my head. I am so glad you found something for your little guy! You are a wonderful parent and a light in a dark world.
Jennifer on February 09, 2014:
Hi. I read that the recommended daily allowance of niacin for kids was about 8mg. Are you having side effects with such high doses? How do you get it? I am very interested because my son has many similar symptoms of yours. Thanks.
LMurphy on February 09, 2014:
Thank you so much for this post. I was in tears reading it, it describes my experience with my youngest oerfecy only we have just started on the Russian roulette of drugs.
I am certainly going to look into this further and do my own research. It is refreshing to hear that you have your boy back, so often they are lost to us forever.
Where in NorCal are you?, I am in San Fran and would love to find a Dr who could help support a vitamin regime.
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on December 04, 2013:
@Julie, yes Wyatt does still need the Niacin. He is almost 13 now, and his amount has fluctuated here and there, but he is at 3,500mg of a non-flushing form of Niacin called Niacinamide. He is still doing awesome on this regimen. Recently he was hospitalized for a terrible stomach flu and went off all his vitamins for 2 weeks while his body stabilized. At the end of the 2 weeks he started hallucinating again, and begged for his Niacin again! Of course I put him right back on it, and things are back to normal again. He is such a loving boy nowadays! I hope you can make this type of therapy work for you! Blessings to you and your family.
Julie on December 04, 2013:
I wondered if Wyatt still needs the niacin? I'm in the same boat you were in and will try higher doses of niacin. We've done every holistic approach imaginable but nothing brings my 11 yr old close to "normal" for very long. Thank you so much for sharing.
Andrew on September 14, 2013:
How could I make a 4 year old take Niacin? I wonder how much could be given at this age?
Louise on October 31, 2012:
Wow, sound so much like my life and bringing up my Asperger's son and his terrible anger, sleeplessness etc. He's now 33 but it wasn't until 5 yrs ago that we got things under control with niacin. Not for lack of trying, at 6 I took him to a natural Dr. who tried him on niacin but I now know he didn't give him enough and that's why we didn't get results. He takes flush-free niacin and niacinamide, 20 pills a day, lithium orotate to stabilize his moods, 2 fish oil a day, Multi, vitamin C 5htp and" Tranquil sleep" for sleep, etc. Thank goodness for Dr. Hoffer!
countto10 on October 23, 2012:
Thanks for your response!!! Though my son has only officially been diagnosed ADHD, PDD-NOS, I really think something else is going on (hence, the risperadal and lexapro meds he's been prescribed). I did go to Vitacost, and yes, I was so surprised by their prices. I bought last night some niacin flush free to get him started until my shipment arrives. I so much want to get him off the anti-psychotics!!!!! He does not hallucinate, but he feels so persecuted and really rages when he is not being understood. He thinks everyone is being "mean to him." I so hope soon I will be posting his success story:) Can't thank you enough for sharing. And again so happy for Wyatt!
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on October 22, 2012:
Dear countto10, thank you for writing! You are the first person who has told me they discovered Hoffer's work first and then found my story. I am so glad that it encouraged you! My son Wyatt is now 11 1/2 and just began jr. high school. He is now taking 6,000mg of Niacin and 6,000mg of Vitamin C and 4,200mg of Omega 3 daily. He also takes Concerta ER for the ADHD, and Clonidine to sleep at night. (He STILL can't sleep without this drug.) He is doing great and is a real sweetheart. While he no longer has rages or aggression problems, nor has any more hallucinations, his PDD-NOS and ADHD still keep our life interesting! The best part of having his mood disorders under control is that he is now learning and growing and overcoming these other disabilities. He makes friends easily at school, and even won an award for outstanding citizenship and academics just a few weeks ago! Anyway, thank you for asking, and I wish you and your son the best as you try this therapy. Blessings!
P.S. I know that insurance plans don't pay for vitamins and it can really add up. I buy all my vitamins at practically wholesale cost from vitacost.com. They also take a Paypal credit card called Bill Me Later that is easy to qualify for. Don't know if this is information that will help you, but maybe others need to hear it!
countto10 on October 22, 2012:
I know this article was written along time ago, but I am so encouraged by this. It truly brings tears to my eyes that you have your little boy back. I can attest to how awful you must have felt having your baby on psych drugs. I have been there but without the extreme violence. (Violence yes, but not to Wyatts extreme-but it may be heading there). My son is 9 and has ADHD, PDD-NOS. Since around 14 mos of age I knew something was up. Anyway for you son to attend daycare around age 4 he was started on stimulant meds. I or I should say he, has tried multitudes of medications. Sometimes there has been combos that really has allowed him to be a happy, energetic kid (good way energetic), other times I could tell he was uncomfortable in his own skin. Anyway I had stumbled upon Doctoryourself.com and the article from Dr. Hoffer and the niacin therapy. Then after looking for testimonials on healthboards (which I was surprised there weren't any) I came across your article. I am so happy I did. I cant wait to begin my son on Niacin. I do think the Ritalin will be a necessary evil, but he is also on lexapro and risperadal and Strattera. Yuck. Although he has had many good days on this combo, yet still he battles with aggression, irritability (I'm called at least twice a week at his school), but he can be the sweetest little boy with the greatest heart!
Sorry this post is so lengthy, but it felt good to talk to others who understands. Can you share any updates on Wyatt? Again, I am so grateful you posted this and am truly happy for you all!!!!!
jrs1972 on October 21, 2012:
All I can say is Thank You so much for sharing your story. I have three children each with their own special needs but our 4 yo son literally controls our every move due to his issues. Dx with PDD NOS we have the prescrip for Prozac can't seem to "drug up" a small child before trying everything else possible. I've seen what meds do to a child from my first son. So hoping to find something that works. GFCFSF diet is not enough. Now he's stimming and phobias worse than ever. Will look into B-3, etc. Thanks again for sharing.
Christopherson on October 11, 2012:
WONDERFUL, AMAZING, GREAT ......... THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE!!
I read a lot about orthomolecular medicine its so fascinating!
Soon I can tell you about my experience cause I will start with the vitamin-cure!
all the best for you and your sons
Gus on September 18, 2012:
After 15 years with therapy, psychiatry, and psychopharmacology, I am just coming to the realization (after taking an unflinchingly honest inventory of myself/ my life, and a very good online assessment) that I most likely have been dealing with an untreated/undiagnosed/ unrecognized bipolar condition for a looong time. Your article about your sons exceptional progress with alternative treatments is a real inspiration (as I have been on megadoses of meds for my current diagnoses and I am afraid of more toxic level of new substances.) thanks for turning a light on in my darkness!!
Christy on September 08, 2012:
My son has been on Trileptal, Lamictal and now abilify for about 4yrs. My husband had an aunt who was diagnosed with end stage breast cancer 12yrs ago and given less than 6 months to live. She refused all chemo/radiation (they said it couldn't help anyway) and found an actual MD but one who uses the holistic approach. She lived 10 healthy yrs with vitamins and diet alone and still drove her car! We thought...why not give it a shot so we called her doctor.
My son is now on several vitamins and minerals and just took a food allergy test. This had dramitically improved his bipolar nos symptoms and we are now in the process of weaning his meds. The dr says he will be prescription free in 5wks!!!! Please check out one of these amazing doctors!
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on September 06, 2012:
@ lilly, although I really don't know the answer to that question, poor digestion and absorption of necessary vitamins and minerals definitely has health effects for people of all ages and can lead to disease caused by malnutrition... so I suppose that idea is plausible. Thanks for stopping by!
Lilly on September 06, 2012:
I have heard that the niacin creates stomach acids in individuals that are low. Is it the food that is not broken down (because of the low stomach acids) that give our children the psychiatric symptoms? Thanks.
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on July 05, 2012:
Hi Kat, I think I began giving Wyatt two daily doses of the Niacin because I knew it was going to be alot of pills all at once and wanted to break it up. I don't know how long Niacin lasts in the bloodstream, because we didn't have the effect of it "wearing off" in the middle of the day. Probably because I ramped him up so quickly until I found a dose that was really effective for him, and probably because I did split his daily dose into two doses, morning and evening. By the way, I have heard that for some people, taking Niacin in the evening can help with insomnia problems! Wyatt has a pretty severe case of ADHD, so this doesn't really help him with sleeping. **For anyone trying this therapy at home...you have to find the right dose for your child. If you are not getting the results you desire, play with the dosing every few days till you feel it is effective. When you talk to your doctor about this treatment, refer to the research of Dr. Abram Hoffer, M.D., not to me, he is where I got the idea in the first place! And don't forget to check into the links to the research and buff up your own knowledge about using Niacin therapy. I wish I could personally respond to you all, but this hub has gotten a lot of attention (which I am glad to be helping people with this information) and I try to check in once in a while to respond to questions, but life is still busy here at our house! Also, I feel limited in giving actual advice because I am not a doctor, so I try to answer only questions about our experiences. Thanks for all the kind remarks, comments and questions. I am happy knowing that this hub is giving people hope and an option to drug therapies! Blessings!
Kat on July 03, 2012:
Thanks again for your story, I have also found some posts here very helpful too! I have been giving my son Niacin and reducing his medication, it is working like a miracle! Do you give the Niacin with his ADHD stimulant meds in am? You said in an earlier post that you give 2 daily doses- I am finding the 500mg lasts about 2 hours for my son, then he goes manic and gets aggressive again. does giving Niacin twice a day make it last longer?
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on June 29, 2012:
Kathy Ray, either one of those is fine for my son. We use both. Glad you stopped by!
Kathy Ray on June 25, 2012:
Which flush free niacin do you use? Niacinamide (nicotinamide)....or inositol hexanicotinate? Thank you so much for sharing your story and what helped your son!!!
Bree's Mom on May 26, 2012:
I have a 21 yr old and 15 yr old like Wyatt. My daughter 15 is well if you been there you know .She was diagnosed 5 years ago.. We are on 15 pills a day . I am going to show this to her support team. Thank you for saying it isn't just us......
Jen on May 12, 2012:
I am amazed. No one ever brought up the idea of a vitamin regime to help our daughter, who is turning 14! Why, I don't know.
Our psych says that she is 95% worse than any other child he's dealt with at her same age and diagnoses! She has been diagnosed with so much, we cannot keep up, so we just say bipolar, which is the number one problem. Couple this with a child who is years behind her age (VERY young) maturely, openly defiant (mis-perceives things very negatively -- example, a boy apologized to her for the way his friends were acting, and she started screaming at him), and untrusting, and it just causes a billion problems.
All I know is I'm going to *really* look into this idea of supplements (Omega-3 has helped me with my memory). I missed the horrible post. I almost wish you'd kept it there, for people to respond! There will *ALWAYS* be people who do not understand what we go through. Let them criticize. In my experience,it always comes back to bite that person.
Meanwhile God bless all those brave souls who deal with special needs children, and thank you so much for sharing!
Jerry Mag on May 02, 2012:
Our daughter takes 3,500mg of niacin-amide, 4,000mg vitamin C, and a couple B-Complex capsules. This has been taken for 6 months. Her liver tests came back completely normal after 6 months of this regime. Make sure to provide plenty of C (it helps protect the liver as well), and provide the B complex companion nutrients to any megadose Niacin therapy, and you should't have to worry.
Kat on April 14, 2012:
Been reading that Niacin can be hard on the liver and there are other scary side affects, not nearly as bad as the side affects of psych medication though!
Kat on April 13, 2012:
Hi, thanks so much for the testimony! We have struggled with serious issues with our 7 year old for years. I am going to get the Niacin today, what brand do you use? We have a local Vitamin Shoppe and they have many brands, I am assuming a flush free capsule would be best? Thank you!!
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on April 02, 2012:
Wow, someone put a really mean and vicious comment on here, and I just deleted it. That is a first for all the years I have used this forum. Thank you to the second anonymous user who called them on it. Bless you.
Anonymous on April 01, 2012:
At the preceding poster titled anonymous, how could you be so cruel? Apparently you have no sympathy, or empathy, for those dealing with these types of issues, and their families.
Deb on March 31, 2012:
My, how our experiences are similar.
I found success with eliminating wheat and dairy.
And homeopathic remedies.
In all my research, I didn't come across niacin.
But, not surprising that the answers are simpler
than we think.
Blessings to you and your family.
From a mom who's been there
Laura Matthysen on March 20, 2012:
Please can you forward me an email address so I can talk to you, we have a 7 year old son, with Biopolar, Autism ADD and ODD and currently we have a 4 year old also with the same. Please I need to talk. My email address is email@example.com from South Africa. We have been searching for help, this is giving hope
Amy on February 21, 2012:
Omg. My adhd, ODD, bipolar daughter is 15. She is one of 6 kids. I have one with cognitive delays/autism, one with autism, one with schizophrenia.
The most important thing I have learned though is don't bother with meds. She has been great off as compared to how she was on them. Her most recent dr recently recommended this:
Vitamin D3- 1000mg
Omega3- 1000mg 2 to 3 times a day
High potency B complex- at night
magnesium -400mg at night
Zinc- 25mg day
Inositol- 6-12 g a day
Mind you she is 15 and 110lbs so don't start this without first speaking to a physician. I noted it here though because I wanted to add what has worked for others. Mayne this could help someone. Bring it up to your doctor.
Trisha on October 25, 2011:
I know this was posted a couple of years ago however I am going to begin this regiment with my almost 6 year old daughter and I am hoping it will help thank you for posting this!
Diana Goldstein on June 25, 2011:
Dana, I'm proud of you! What a challenge you all have faced and you've done well by your son. Good job :)
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on April 28, 2011:
Qbrown9, yes it is true that some of the psychotic symptoms were caused by the side-effects of the medications, and that simply taking him off of them did help. BUT you must remember that he was having psychotic and violent episodes before the meds in the first place. Another point to tell you is that I have tried reducing the amount of Niacin Wyatt takes to see if I have been too aggressive with the dosing, and lo and behold, the phychotic symptoms start to return. The truth is that his body NEEDS the niacin to function normally, regardless of what the RDA from the government says! Everyone is an individual, and some people are actually vitamin DEPENDENT, rather than only experiencing symptoms when having a vitamin deficiency...
Qbrown9 on March 16, 2011:
When Wyatt was released in October, he was med-washed, correct? So he was left on Ritalin and Clonidine and taken off the other drugs. I wonder if taking him off the other drugs (I'm assuming were anti-psychotics) contributed more to Wyatt's return to reality. Glad to hear your little guy is doing better. Sounds like a horror show. I wonder how you were able to keep a full time job. Wyatt was able to remain in his daycare situation? How did the daycare provider care for him?
George on December 08, 2010:
I just want to testify that Niacin works for me I am a 28 year old who recently started showing early signs of schizophrenia, and tried unsuccessfully lithium, seroquel, and others to no avail. I cannot believe that more has not been said about this treatment, and it has given me immense hope. I just wish I knew sooner. Please spread the news if you know someone who needs help.
Frank on November 26, 2010:
But if someone wants his amalgams removed, that needs to be done by a holistic dentist who uses the safe protocol to remove amalgams. Otherwise the person can inhalate a lot of mercury vapor from the amalgams during the operation, and it's dangerous. My health problems started a few month after this event, maybe it's because of the unsafe removal of the amalgams plus the vaccins and having my amalgams for many years. Also, in my family we may have a sensibility to develop certain illnesses.
Frank on November 26, 2010:
Hello, I have schizophrenia and I am living well with the medication and 3g of niacin everyday. I have heard that mercury could be the cause of my illness. Maybe mercury found in the vaccines would be the cause of many mental illnesses as the mercury in amalgams. I'll pass a test to see if I have mercury in my system, if yes I'll use a chelation therapy to remove mercury. I have read that niacin is required for the production of glutathione which clean our body from heavy metals like mercury. Mercury depletes our body from glutathione and illnesses result from this. Someone said that it is why niacin is so effective with mental illnesses which are caused by heavy metal such as mercury. I'm still continuing my research. Thanks for the testimony, I'll share it to my friend too. God bless.
Chris on November 07, 2010:
Congratulations on your son Wyatt improcing. I am sure that mental illness can be a tremendous strain on a family. I have struggled with very bad depression a lot of the time myself. I am hoping that these types of therapies will work on me!
Willow Mattox (author) from Northern California on May 29, 2010:
I have read that adults take about 15,000 to 30,000mg a day! This was noted in Dr. Abram Hoffer's case studies. What you choose to do and what works for you is entirely up to you. Wyatt is now up to 4,000 mg a day of Niacin and 4,000 of Vitamin C to keep symptoms away, as of May 2010, and I give it broken up into 2 daily doses. He is still doing great. Wyatt did have a blood test about 8 months ago to verify that his liver was processing all of this well. The test came back completely normal. Blessings to all of you who have written, I hope you find peace.
mom that needs help on April 13, 2010:
I'm a little confused, and I hope that you can bring some clarification to this issue. I have a 17-yr old son who was recently diagnosed as bipolar, so I have started him on Niacin. He weighs 195 lbs, so I don't know where to start. I have heard around 3 grams daily, but possibly in divided doses? I'm not sure.
You said that you started out on 500 mg and increased it by 500mg every 12 hours until you reached 2500mg. So, did you give him 500mg, then 12 hours later give him 1000mg, 12 hours later give him 1500 mg, 12 hrs later- 2000mg, then 12 hrs later- 2500mg, and stay at 2500mg one time daily or did you give him 2500mg per day in several doses per day?
Also, did you find any guidelines online on recommendations by body weight? I was thinking that I need to stop at 3 grams daily, but I didn't know if there was something to go by our not.
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
John Harper from Malaga, Spain on November 16, 2009:
We had a similar situation with our (8 years old this Wednesday the 18th November) daughter, who was diagnosed as epileptic when she was three.
We also went the 'white coat' doctor way and used Depakin (the Spanish version of Depakot) and watched her turn into a zombie over a year period, she just sat there doing nothing, her speech disappeared and we thought we were losing her.
We went 'natural' with a great local doctor who had started off as a 'white coat' and then decided he wanted to cure people not treat their symptoms, so he became a naturopath.
It took us six months to get to a point where we could start the weaning off Depakin, but with each 25ml reduction in her med (she was on 700ml a day at the end) we saw her slowly return to life.
Our stable regime was using Taurine and Magnesium, plus Cellfood and a multivitamin (more for the strawberry flavourings, as she was denied sweets and dairy products).
Finally we found out that research (evidential, not white coat research) had shown that cutting gluten from the diet had stopped seizures quickly, and just a few weeks ago stopped giving her gluten products.
She has been fit free and is sleeping very well, brighter at school (she was a year behind due to the Depakin) and becoming more creative daily.
We stand in faith that God has finally shown us the way to clear this thorn from her side!
Maybe God gives us these things in order that we can show others that there is light if you trust God and keep standing in faith for His intervention, because showing us the right natural remedies WAS His intervention.
Thank you for your hubs, they are informative and inspiring.
Susan Reid from Where Left is Right, CA on October 30, 2009:
This is an amazing story of triumph. Hooray for you and Wyatt! Thank God you found a natural alternative that works. Here's wishing you both many calm and happy years.
Best regards, Mighty Mom
hubby7 from Chicago on October 30, 2009:
Extremely informative and captivating. Thanks for sharing.
Boo McCourt from Washington MI on October 16, 2009:
Man what that little boy went through is awful. As hard as it is on you, I can't imagine how Wyatt dealt with that stuff in his head. I am so happy for you both, that you found a treatment that is working. Very good article. Hopefully people in your situation will read this and have some hope.
perfumer from California on October 13, 2009:
Very informative and useful hub!
Dana Knight from Northern California on October 09, 2009:
Wow, God Bless you and your family!
bayareagreatthing from Bay Area California on October 08, 2009:
I can barely imagine what you have gone through. I am familiar with bi-polar and ADHD along with other disorders in family members. It is very difficult and can be lonely. I am glad you found what works! God Bless you!!